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淘宝上买便宜东西是越买越过瘾，不过这回烦事惹了我几个星期

淘宝上资源丰富，足不出户可以交易很多便宜东西，而且卖家都相当注重诚信，在钱没进入口袋前，服务态度实在是太好了，热心的解答、盛情的电话联系什么的。

原来支付宝这种中间机构很大程度解决了网上买卖之间的欺诈问题，物流公司也赚肥了。

因为地域的问题，那些物美价廉的水货只能看着馋，本地没有卖的，网上交易也不放心，一些论坛有卖的也太分散，淘宝搞起得有声有色，虽然倒卖私货是不对的，但有货比三家，一个大的集散地也好让我了解最低价，再到本地交易。

买了几次尝到甜头，从充值卡到电脑配件，越买越凶，这回就出事了：

斗胆买了一个DELL 1907显示器，2500多，拿回来效果确实不错，也很满意，恰好tianyuan也在买显示器，很热心的说动他把拿到手的viewsonic退货，我帮他再买一台DELL1907。回头客嘛，怎么也不会比上回差，价格也给我少了50。东西回来了，结果有个暗点，自然很不爽，开始交易流程图中的另外一条路径：过程中也体会到了风险的存在，和化解风险的办法

卖家还说查了３遍没坏点的，又跟我扯说dell官方不保点，可他卖的时候答应的是拆开保点的，现在跟我扯这个，话语中tianyuan说是软中带硬，就是不想退货。又说找个理由让本地的dell给换，可dell换的货可能不是三星屏了，那谁还愿意，只能退货，tianyuan也不愿意卖家补尝，毕竟新东西有个点很不爽。tianyuan讲道理有一套，卖家一个电话来，他跟人家讲了５０分钟道理，卖家怕了，选择退货。

退货前tianyuan问我要是他拿到退货说有问题怎么办，我说不至于这么差劲吧，结果不幸被说中，再付出５６快递费用后，卖家说盒子、泡沫都烂了，显示器还有些擦伤，驱动盘的袋子也破了，不能当新的卖了，要我补偿损失。妈的，快递都投保了，包装烂了管我鸟事。

和tianyuan一顿牢骚后，评价就是卖家完全不想为自己卖出的东西负担风险，坚决不赔偿。此后……

我一上淘宝旺旺，就被那鸟人烦，gtalk也不时报来拒绝接受退款的通知，烦啊，几千块钱荡在网上，还好是支付宝，互相扯不清楚，从来没碰到这种异常，原来网上交易就是这样，没有问题时皆大欢喜，出了问题才能看出卖家的诚信，商人就是这样，出了问题肯定会推卸责任，尤其是付完钱以后。

这哥们明显不是做大生意的料，居然每天跟我吵，说什么买家和卖家要公平，说什么卖家就不是人了，烦哪，怕他一直拖我的货款弄得人财两空，我也不知咋办，到处求助

alee关系光，介绍淘宝的F给我，通了几次电话叫我确保有点的证据，虽然卖东西的帖子上没有说明保点，这点比较麻烦，但旺旺的聊天记录发了确认消息说有点的，我把记录都给他托人帮我协调，有了他们的支持，我就给他投诉，给他差评，让丫做不成生意

卖家这下可急了，反投诉啊

F打电话给我说只要确保有点的退货证据，我就不会败诉，因为内部关系，淘宝处理得优先级高一些，当然还是流程办事，只是吵架时底气足一些，还好tianyuan 当时借了相机把暗点拍了下来，宅急送的送货单也扫描了提交上去，卖家之前跟tianyuan殴气，说买家不主动给他打电话协调问题，卖的时候给他打了５０分钟电话，花了不少钱，非要买家主动联系他，扯啊扯，还扬言要抗争到底，不屈服的意思……

昨天晚上卖家打了个电话来，给了自己台阶下，说物流可以赔偿，让我撤销投诉和坏评就放钱，可能是淘宝催得紧，总算这种烂事持续十几天后终于结束了。

此后有几点经验：
１：没有钻石以上的信用级别一点要倍加小心，有了支付宝骗子倒是不怕，碰到不会做生意的嫩头青就够烦的了。
２：交易前承诺的东西一定要留下证据，需要确认的一定要让对方点确认消息，我想淘宝旺旺应该可以记录对话当作评判的证据。
３：拿到货后不符合描述的地方退货之前一定要取证，拍照什么的，有了证据扯皮才方便。东西寄出去前也一定要各个角度多拍几张
４：贵重物品选择物流时一定要投保，还要写明联系对方后亲自收货。
５：作为消费者一定要自信有理，作为卖家就得为自己卖的东西承担风险，淘宝作为中间协调人应该会占在诚信的天平上。

不过这其中确实有很多漏洞，很多是谁也说不清的事情，到底谁搞坏的都说不清楚，不能当面及时对峙，如果处理得不当，必有一方会损失。买卖东西的风险就在这里，淘宝出面也只能让自己解决，估计闹上法庭也是谁都说不清楚的事情，以后买东西一定谨慎

说到网上买东西，最近不得不提一下当当，给公司买了几本书，没想到那么紧俏的书当当上第一次购买的客户都只要７７折，比china-pub便宜多了，还可以轻易的选择货到付款，其中也没个电话确认，也太相信客户了吧，买书送快递费，还送了个果汁机或者台灯的东西，他能赚钱吗？　货到了，忘记开发票，只能拒收，要么就得等平邮的发票，真是白痴硬是不肯快件挂号信邮寄发票，没辙，只好退款，反正也没付钱

这当当B2C真够奇怪的，淘宝C2C也是，打电话做中间人协调也要电话费啊，怎么赚钱呢

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快件挂号信邮寄发票？你掏钱呀？

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买东西就是扯皮拉筋的事，尤其怕这种异地的麻烦，看样子大的东西在网上买太不划算了，邮费和电话费加起来比在本地买还贵。

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学习。

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这个帖子好，我也经常去taobao看看，买东西一定要用支付宝。货到才确认放款。什么细节都要在旺旺里说明白，就象个协议，特别是大件，贵重物品。不过，有时候，自己都觉得这样真是墨迹。

还好，兄弟的运气不错，有路子认识淘宝的客F。顶个。

我顶 [回复]

淘宝在国内很热么，卖家的诚信非常要紧。稍微低点的都不要考虑。

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呵呵，taobao那个哥们算是给石头砸了脑袋，把坏东西买给tianyuan，胆子也太大了，他不知道tianyuan的逻辑水平，非把他给绕晕了不行！！

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